Steve EM was either home sick or was undertasked at work yesterday, because he was all over the Nacle and in rare form.

He was so rude and offensive on the FMH dirty talk thread that he actually got some comments deleted, which on that thread was no mean feat. He attacked "Jew haters" while almost simultaneously expressing his own hatred for all things English. And, returning to his standard frat boy antics, promptly accused all non-native people living in New York as suffering from Freud's phallic funk, despite the tunnels in question being clearly non-phallic in nature. Despite all of the ranting, surprisingly enough, he did not manage to work in a disparaging comment about Boyd K. Packer, Steve Evans or Aaron Brown. Which, really, is a reason to rejoice in an of itself. And, so, Steve EM, we wish you a speedy recovery or return of busy days at work.

But, really, its all just a big misunderstanding, because the real problem is we don't get the tone he is using. Steve really is trying to be a sensitive, heartfelt, tender and compassionate guy. We all are just reading him wrong.


Steve EM said... @ February 16, 2006 at 8:39 AM

Snarkey, Good one. But you missed my attacked on another apostle who has chased more souls from the church than he's brought in, probably because his name was later removed from my comment at my request. And you can’t reasonably expect me to beat-up on a pathetic old man every day, can you?

Also, you missed that I was speculating on fascination with tunnels being perhaps a form of reverse penis (vagina) envy. Many some shrink wannabe could do a dissertation on it?

But given your past confusion between the meaning of the words marketing and inventing, you did alright.

Snarkimus Prime said... @ February 16, 2006 at 9:15 AM

So, Steve, do tell, is it that you are bored at work or laid up ill at home?

Dying to know.

Steve EM said... @ February 16, 2006 at 10:49 AM

Appreciate the concern Snarkey. Actually, things are rather busy, but I finished a string of customer tech service calls and needed a breather before catching-up on staff crap. Oh, BCC deleted this comment of mine yesterday:

“...........I'll add that Ludlow was one of my Bishops at BYU and gossiped about something I confessed to him. I remember the incident well because it led to a drinking problem which I didn’t kick until my wife-to-be moved in years later at Michigan. The guy is a fake and a half and a wolf among us.”

I guess short Steve or androgynous Brown is a D. Ludlow fan. Better than a Nibley groupie, I guess.

Snarkimus Prime said... @ February 16, 2006 at 11:16 AM

My impression is Steve Evans is still very much in control of BCC and Ronan is #2. Aaron Brown has no apparent admin powers there at all, and only posts there under threat of being kicked to the curb.

I have a tough time believing anyone could say anything gossipy about you that you hadn't already made public yourself in one way or another, Steve. I mean, come on, with the way you unpack your baggage in public, what in the world could anyone possibly say about you that is gossipy enough to offend? Blaming your drinking problem on him? I dunno mate, did he shove the bottle in your mouth?

Steve EM said... @ February 16, 2006 at 1:00 PM

Snarkey, are you saying Aaron is only shyster Steve’s occasional west coast boy toy now?

I don’t get the connection about Ludlow betraying a confidence ~26 years ago when I was a BYU undergrad pawn (or "visitor" as momma’s boy Dallin Oaks called us back then) to my plain speak behind a nacle handle today. Related to that, I got a kick out of Ned Flanders commenting that he wasn’t blogging anonymously. I know, technically correct, but a handle meets the same objective.

Oh, the D. Oaks’ “visitor” quote comes in handy when those poor BYU students call requesting a donation: “Well, in my day Dallin said we students were visitors who just come and go, hardly a vital part of the University community. You guys have some _____ asking a visitor to contribute.".

Snarkimus Prime said... @ February 16, 2006 at 1:28 PM

Steve EM, are you saying you are a completely different person now than what you used to be ~26 years ago? If you are pretty much the same, then it just seems unlikely to me anyone could betray confidence in you given your present behavior of telling everyone everything all the time.

Even if he did say something behind your back that he shouldn't have, how does that cause a drinking problem in you that is his fault?

D. Golden Shizzle said... @ February 16, 2006 at 8:06 PM

I know reading Steve's vitriolic, rancorous, and resentful commentary tempts me to put something stronger than vanilla in my Diet Coke. That said, somehow I manage to close the browser window and get on with my day.

Kim Siever said... @ February 16, 2006 at 9:06 PM

"But you missed my attacked on another apostle"

That's because they don't follow OT anymore.

NFlanders said... @ February 17, 2006 at 1:59 AM

This is is the best thread I've read all day.

Steve EM: You still haven't explained Ludlow's role in your drinking problem.

Seriously, this is better than People or US Weekly.

Also, I did realize the irony of saying I wasn't anonymous, but only after I posted it. Hee-hee.

Steve EM said... @ February 17, 2006 at 9:04 AM


Come-on lighten-up. Of course I can only blame myself for youthful excesses, but I think it’s fair to acknowledge that a few church authorities definitely catalyzed my pre-marital hiatus from the church. For background somebody at BCC cited some bogus teaching of Ludlow regarding literal Israelite descent, and I added a comment warning that the guy is an unethical fraud and should be ignored. I guess Napoleonic Steve is a Ludlow fan, so my comment didn’t stay up.

I still don’t get the connection you’re making between a rogue Bishop breaking a confidence and my “anonymous” plain speak in the nacle. But in response to your question, if you must know, I haven’t banged anyone but my wife for 24 years. So I guess I am a different person, not that I see the relevance to Ludlow being a snake.

Love ya Snarkey. d. golden, Kim and Ned, you guys are great too.

Ned, let's just say Ludlow was the second Bishop who screwed with me, but he abused his authority whereas the first guy was just a forgivable theological moron. In the first case, I was 15 and the nut job would go on and on about the evils of masturbation when I was experimenting with drugs and just couldn’t stop banging my gf. I also realized later that he was a self-salvation Mormon who didn’t grasp the gift Jesus has given us. But he was just a misguided forgivable volunteer, not part of the paid ministry of the church. Ludlow is evil. Anyway, I’ve learned to treat conversations with church leaders like legal depositions or insurance applications. You can find an example at Kim’s OT blog under the Garments thread.

Snarkimus Prime said... @ February 17, 2006 at 11:34 AM

Steve EM, people can accuse you of a lot of things, but nobody will ever be able to accuse you of being a closed book...unfortunately.

Kim Siever said... @ February 17, 2006 at 1:28 PM

I love you too, Steve.

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